Skinwälker
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

With all the negative attention BFA is getting, it’s best to remember that the vocal minority is usually wrong about representing the whole WoW community.

People still believe that “everyone” hated Ghostcrawler and forced him to leave, when he actually never felt that hostility.

Just something to keep in mind when you think negative BFA threads represent the millions of players having fun playing the game.

Ythisens
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

There was a thread awhile back that had snapshots through WoW’s history of the forums showing that GD has never really changed no matter what expansion. Even Wrath, BC, and Vanilla had large amounts of complaint posts.

Not diminishing any of the current ones on BfA or saying they’re wrong, but just that a lot of people don’t remember those past expansions and only focus on the current and assume the sky is falling. When the majority either likes it or is indifferent to it like Greg is saying in that tweet.

People are fondly remembering Legion now, but forget the outrage that followed Legendaries from 7.0 to 7.2. There were multiple threads a day with hundreds of replies with feedback about them.

The forums are a good gauge of activity but not necessarily the “state of the game”. That’s a little more complicated.

Ythisens
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

I’m not trying to specifically compare but rather use it as an example for an individual feature. I should’ve probably worded it better to convey that in all honesty.

Ythisens
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

You forget about the massive re-balance we did for them in 7.1 then where we redid/buffed all of the under-performing legendaries because of how punishing it was to get some of them.

Like I said earlier in the thread it wasn’t a direct comparison but an example.

Ythisens
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

Changes in communication don’t happen overnight, especially in large studios. Again it’s the truth not an excuse, but that statement will be seen as an excuse. Like I said last time I’m not gonna get on here every time and say “You’re right we’ve been bad at communicating, we’ll work on it” and promise to work on it, only to say the same thing again a few months later. I’d rather just do it instead of talk about trying to fix it.

We’ve made some progress and outlines of things we want to start doing and we’ve made great ground internally figuring out how to solve this problem. For Bornakk and myself as Community Managers it’s our number one focus. If all goes as planned things will just start happening and it will be the end of replies like this. I know you all aren’t seeing the results of this yet but we’re still working on it

Ythisens
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

That’s my point and I also called this response in my post. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ythisens
1 week ago
Ghostcrawler Says Forum Critics are Wrong

I think I do need to explain more what I meant here then. The forums are a great gauge of activity because it shows people are actively talking about the game. However if you were to try to discern the “state of the game” purely from forums you’d go mad, because the forums naturally are a bit more pessimistic. I’m not discounting any of the hundreds of feedback threads I read a day, there’s value in those and those players could be right. However that doesn’t mean the state of the game is necessarily bad because the top threads say so. That’s one avenue, of one demographic of players, that is most definitely not the majority (by a longshot), but these are passionate players that understand the game.

When I say its not a great judge of state of the game, I mean holistically how you’d assess it. It’s just not enough data. It’s can be very validated and opinionated but it’s not enough to decide if the game is good or bad, because according to the forums its more often than not always “bad”. That’s just how it is and has been for over 14 years now.

Sorry you feel that way but your posts are not a waste of time.

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